Okay. Y’all are opinionated, which I really like since you include a set of experiences that I don’t have, and the extra expertise = extra knowledgeable decisions. In our final submit, in regards to the stained glass doorways, there was a firestorm within the feedback about lots of you not wanting to make use of the bathroom close to a urinal with out visible or bodily safety. Whereas it’s not our intent for use on the identical time, it appeared prefer it simply felt gross that your face could be in the identical line because the urinal (with doable residual “components” lingering). If we’re being trustworthy, it appears that evidently this urinal shouldn’t be a preferred concept amongst girls, however Brian, Charlie, and all their buddies are so enthusiastic about it that I’m nonetheless group urinal. Pay attention making individuals have enjoyable in my house is just about my #1 driver in life, and these two urinal-loving males (and my brother) are SO excited. So now I have to get the women again on board. Message obtained – we want some separation between the 2.
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Possibility #1: Single Outhouse – WITH PARTITION
This was our unique plan, however we added a partition between the bathroom and the urinal. A fantastic possibility is a pony wall that comes out from the again wall. This might be constructed out of wooden and paneled or tiled. It may be steel (assume literal lavatory partition) and even glass (like a window, probably stained glass?).
Professionals: We get to maintain the very best structure, however add that tiny little bit of separation. May additionally add a tiled backsplash with a transparent beginning/stopping level that may be fairly (with out having to do the entire wall).
Cons: May have to take away the partition sooner or later to be ADA compliant. Once more (and I need to be tremendous clear), we don’t plan on renting out the property for small occasions till properly after youngsters graduate (if in any respect), so if we needed it to be accessible, we would want to switch issues down the road. To me, this can be a fairly straightforward change, and hell, we might add a bathe curtain in between them with a water-resistant cloth on the lads’s aspect (LOLOLOLOL… okay now even I’m grossed out ). I additionally need to be aware that I feel it might work for any buddies/guests or future dad and mom who want accessibility, it simply may not be technically in compliance.
Professionals: The structure of the toilet continues to be the very best. The stream from door to door is simple, and there are clear visible focal factors and good sightlines. Plenty of respiratory room and no obstructions, however admittedly, the sink is small right here.
Cons: We’d have to make it a tiny bit wider to accommodate the partition with out it being actually crammed in there. Additionally, the design of the partition would have be actual good because it’s the primary sightline while you look in right here.
*****UPDATE: As I’m scripting this submit, I’m contemplating shifting that window greater (we’ve determined to switch it anyway because it’s so broken), and in that case, we might put the sink/vainness in entrance of that window. Proper now, the window is loopy low (like 18″ off the ground), so I might elevate it to be 30″ and use that area as a substitute. After which do one thing so fairly with a single sink and vainness space, ought to we ever have, say, bridal events prepare in there. Right here’s how that floorplan would look:
Possibility #2: Double Outhouse – ARGUABLY THE CUTEST
How cute is that this!!?? And your face wouldn’t be inside inches of a urinal, pleasing most of you (I hope). That is probably the most direct structure pulled from the inspiration (the 2 tiled rooms inside – bathe and bathroom room). It’s fairly dang cute and provides “his” and “hers” in the very best of the way.
Professionals: Separate areas for every. Common adorableness of getting two twin mini buildings. Additionally, we might do a colourful bathroom, which I need to do, however there aren’t any colourful urinals to match. However with every having their very own rooms, I might do a blue or inexperienced bathroom in a single and a black urinal within the different. BTW, I may additionally do that anyway in the identical outhouse and simply work out steadiness it visually.
Cons: Must take away at the least the bathroom room outhouse construction if we ever needed to be accessible or ADA compliant. One stained glass door by itself is barely 24″ broad, which is fairly slender (however doable, our bathroom room in our main and our visitor room lavatory doorways are solely 24″ broad). But additionally, the sink is fairly crammed and slender. See right here:
In addition to the crammed sink, it’s difficult; the stream and sightlines aren’t the very best. There may be sufficient clearance across the tub to stroll, however the doorway-to-doorway stream is clunky – it’s a must to stroll out and round this 52″ deep construction. Doable, however much less of a very good stream for certain. I, in fact, might reconfigure the entire thing, however it’s beginning to really feel like that is only a cute possibility, however not the very best.
Possibility #3: Single-Huge Outhouse – ACCESSIBILITY FOCUSED
Okay, here’s a single outhouse, however with the sink inside, between the bathroom and the urinal. I feel this might be sufficient separation from the urinal for all my girl buddies, proper?
Professionals: The bigger shed is probably going ADA-compliant. The door opening is 48″ with sufficient area inside to maneuver. I additionally love that the sink could be centered and the prettiest sightline when the doorways are open. The bathroom and urinal are separated by a sink.
Cons: The doorways really feel too small, much less particular, and there’s something extra “shed-like” than “outhouse” which is hilarious to check (I hope you all know that we’re internally laughing on the phrase “outhouse” each time, understanding that this isn’t the dream of most householders however I’ve such a transparent imaginative and prescient for it I promise!). I fear that this construction is simply too large to be cute and quirky. We might flank the doorways with smaller home windows, in fact, and work with it, however she’s large.
The stream is a bit clunky right here, too, on this floorplan. Making the outhouse ADA-compliant may simply make the constructing too large. However to be trustworthy, we’re uncertain how a lot area we really have to have. Gretch discovered this graphic, which says we want 30-48″ of clear ground area, however not in each instructions.
It appears to me that we want it to be 59″ deep + framing supplies (so 65″) in whole to be compliant, which is admittedly very deep. However I’m wondering if there’s a world the place, if the doorways are left open and the toilet is handled technically like one massive lavatory (not having the WC be the compliance measurement), that we is perhaps okay? Like might the doorway opening area be a part of our turnaround space that we would want?
I really feel like I’m actually getting within the weeds right here, BTW. Brian doesn’t even need to hire out our property like I do in 15 years, so possibly we don’t have to make it “technically” or “legally” accessible (though I might like to make it work for as many skills as doable simply usually). OR possibly we simply design it how we need to for now, after which if we flip this right into a enterprise in 10-15 years, we put money into modifications. However it’s fascinating to study, and I really like a problem. And no matter compliance, we do have lots of people over, and I’d like to be that home that individuals of skills can come understanding they’re taken care of.
Possibility #4: South Outhouse – SHINING STAINED GLASS
We needed to deal with these of you who thought that stained glass could be pointless with out a window or mild supply contained in the outhouse to make the colours shine. We’ll name you “group outdated Pizza Hut” since you likened it to a Pizza Hut. Whereas I don’t agree, we had this precise identical dialog and briefly relocated the outhouse just a few weeks in the past. There’s a fairly dangerous window with a horrible view (of a sequence hyperlink fence) that we had deliberate on eliminating. However the concept crossed our thoughts to place the stained glass doorways in entrance of it and see how that may look.
The stained glass completely lit up, in each good and actually BRIGHT methods. Clearly its WAY extra highly effective, vibrant, saturated, and dominant. However I’m not on group “outdated Pizza Hut”. I feel that stained glass completed proper can have mild flowing by means of it, in fact, however may simply be a textural and colourful materials (particularly the extra opaque colours, not the clear). Assume darkish speakeasy bars, saloons, libraries, and many others. And sure, there will probably be a light-weight contained in the outhouse, two enormous skylights, and an enormous window throughout from it, if it’s on the opposite wall, so I promise we’ll get some mild in there! (Additionally fairly certain Gen Z loves nostalgic Pizza Huts and TGIF’s – they’re coming again!).
The primary con of this structure is the horrible stream popping out of the door (from the speakeasy). Now, in fact, we are able to transfer the door and/or transfer the bathtub to be in entrance of the window. However if you find yourself within the area, this stream felt dangerous (and we don’t need to transfer the door as a result of we wish the wall within the adjoining room not be interrupted with a doorway – I’ve obtained plans for that wall).
So the choices are:
- Single outhouse with a partition, large and straightforward to entry, however possibly not technically ADA compliant.
- Double outhouse – so cute, however positively smaller rooms.
- Massive ADA-compliant outhouse/shed.
- South wall outhouse (AKA the southhouse) with some re-configuration.
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What Am I Leaning In the direction of?
Possibility 1 – OG outhouse, BUT I need to attempt to lay it out with a bigger vainness in entrance of the window. However test this out – we might additionally go away the small sink the place it’s after which add a conceit for preparing/hair/make-up, however with no sink, so it doesn’t want plumbing, during which case it may be put in later?
Additionally, I’d actually love to listen to from these of you with expertise with ADA compliance – both needing it your self in a wheelchair, with an getting older guardian, or when you have designed any extra residential-inspired ADA-compliant areas. Curious if #1 is sufficient room to navigate if the stained glass doorways remained open (with the primary door locked and shades closed). Once more, that is our house, and at the moment we don’t have to be beholden to metropolis compliance, and there’s a likelihood we’ll by no means make an actual enterprise out of it, or possibly simply hire to picture shoots and occasional group off-sites, retreats, or household reunions (however not an precise occasion venue). So if I don’t heed your recommendation, it’s doubtless as a result of we simply don’t need to make large selections proper now on this enormous “possibly”. However gathering info from all of you to make the very best resolution is such an unbelievable perk of the job. Thanks 🙂
Additionally, does including the partition in #1 fulfill all of the “no urinals close to my face” people on the market? Please say sure!!!!!
Opening Picture Credit: Picture by Kailtin Inexperienced
