Sunday, March 16, 2025

I Tried To Rent This Out. As soon as Once more, It Did not Work.

Y’all, I appear to have the worst success in attempting to rent out work on our home. I hold attempting, however thinks simply by no means appear to fairly work out for me. 😀

Tuesday morning, I obtained up understanding that I had an enormous job forward of me — putting in the hardwood flooring in our main bedroom suite. There are two rooms and a lobby that solely have plywood subfloor at this level, in order that they want hardwood flooring. I’ve put in loads of hardwood flooring up to now, so I do know I can do it. I’m succesful. I’ve the instruments. However what I lacked was the drive and motivation to get it performed. It’s only a entire lot of flooring, and the duty appeared fairly formidable to me.

I used to be additionally feeling very uncertain concerning the course of for a motive I’ll clarify later on this submit. And since I used to be having huge doubts concerning the course of, I used to be feeling so unmotivated to leap in and get the venture performed. These doubts have been nagging at me for weeks now, and irrespective of how a lot I attempted, I couldn’t discover the reply to my query concerning the set up course of. However extra on that in a minute.

So I made a decision that this may be the proper venture to rent out. After wanting on-line at native corporations and their Google rankings and opinions, I selected an organization. Waco isn’t that huge, so in relation to corporations that may simply set up flooring (slightly than attempting to promote me flooring and having their individuals set up the flooring that I purchase from them), I actually solely discovered one firm that might do it. Fortunately, that firm has incredible opinions. So I known as, and the person got here out that day (Tuesday) to measure for an estimate. He mentioned he would get again to me that afternoon with the estimate. Sadly, I nonetheless haven’t heard again from them.

I’m actually okay with it, although. The principle half that I wished to rent out is the sanding. Putting in the flooring is the straightforward half. The half I dread essentially the most is the sanding. However I used to be informed that they solely do the set up, and I’d have to seek out another person to do the sanding and the ending (or do it myself) as a result of they don’t do this. I used to be so dissatisfied to be taught that. To me, it doesn’t actually appear value it to rent out a job after they’ll solely do the straightforward half, however I’m nonetheless caught doing the toughest half.

So ultimately, I’m actually not even upset about the truth that they didn’t get again to me with an estimate. If they’ll’t do the half I dread essentially the most, and I’d nonetheless be caught doing that half, I’d as nicely do all of it myself. So right this moment is the day. At present is formally flooring day.

There’s so much of flooring to be put in, and it’s really easy to get overwhelmed at having to do all of this myself from begin to end.

However I’m simply going to take it one step at a time. Because the saying goes, how do you eat an elephant? One chew at a time. That is my elephant. 😀

I do not know how lengthy it will take, however I’m going to do my greatest to not drag this out. I’m able to get to the enjoyable stuff. However once more, I’ve two rooms and a lobby that want flooring.

However the flooring goes to utterly change the look of this entire space. That motivates me!

The advantage of having him come out is that I used to be in a position to ask that query that has been nagging at me and preserving me from leaping into this flooring venture prior to now. And that query was about underlayment/moisture barrier.

The unique hardwood flooring in our home has/had felt paper between the hardwood flooring and the subfloor to behave as a barrier. That’s mainly the stuff that’s used below shingles on a roof. So just a few weeks in the past after I began putting in the flooring, I began laying down the felt paper. It’s possible you’ll recall seeing that in footage of the lobby from just a few weeks in the past.

However then I took that felt paper up and puzzled if I wanted to bypass that step as a result of I remembered that in all of this space that has new subfloor, the contractor added Tyvek below the ground joists, after which added insulation between the ground joists, earlier than putting in then new subfloor. They did that on our lavatory flooring two years in the past after I employed that authentic contractor to do the work, and he defined that town now requires that on any remodels coping with the subfloor. So after we had the subfloor changed in these areas, they did that in these areas as nicely.

So my largest concern was that by including a layer of felt paper between the subfloor and hardwood flooring, I could also be creating that dreaded “moisture barrier sandwich” that may trigger huge issues. Are y’all conscious of the “moisture barrier sandwich” concern?

I realized about this a few years in the past, again in 2014, after I was reworking our hallway lavatory. I used to be able to do the bath encompass, and I used to be researching one of the best ways to waterproof a bathe/bathtub encompass. I realized that there are two foremost methods to do it.

The primary manner is to connect thick plastic sheeting to the wall studs and ensure the plastic sheeting utterly seals the world. After which on prime of the sheeting, set up the concrete board, sealing the seams and the screw holes. After which tile straight on prime of the concrete board.

The second foremost approach to do it’s to put in the concrete board on to the wall studs and seal the seams and screw holes. After which use a paint-on waterproofing barrier like RedGard or SEMCO Liquid Membrane (my favourite waterproofing membrane) on prime of the concrete board. As soon as that’s dry, you then tile on prime of the waterproofing membrane.

When doing the hallway lavatory bathtub encompass, I selected the RedGard liquid waterproofing membrane possibility.

Bathtub surround with RedGard waterproofing membraneBathtub surround with RedGard waterproofing membrane

However the bottom line is which you could solely select one possibility. You possibly can’t do each. Waterproofing isn’t a kind of conditions the place one possibility should be good, so utilizing each choices should be higher. As a result of for those who do each — use the plastic sheeting on the studs PLUS add a waterproofing membrane to the concrete board — you’ve created that dreaded “moisture barrier sandwich”, which implies that for those who occur to have a failure someplace in that waterproofing membrane, and water occurs to get behind the concrete board, it’s caught there and has no approach to evaporate as a result of it’s caught between the waterproofing membrane and the plastic. After which what you’ve created is the proper breeding floor for mould. So in relation to bathe surrounds, you solely ever waterproof behind the concrete board or on prime of the concrete board, however by no means each.

So this one concern has been nagging me for weeks now. If I’ve Tyvek below my flooring joists, plus felt paper on prime of the subfloor, is that making a moisture barrier sandwich? I’ve googled each search time period I might consider to reply my query of whether or not or not I ought to use felt paper above the subfloor on this scenario, however it doesn’t matter what I searched, I couldn’t discover the reply. And I used to be so afraid to maneuver ahead with out understanding with full confidence if I used to be about to make an enormous mistake by utilizing the felt paper.

So when this man — the proprietor of this decades-old flooring set up firm — was right here, I defined the scenario very clearly, and he repeated it again to me greater than as soon as, so I do know he understood precisely what I used to be describing. And since his enterprise is right here in Waco the place town now requires the Tyvek below the ground joists, I’m assured that he has seen this many instances. So I requested him how they might deal with that. Would they set up the hardwood flooring straight on the subfloor? Or would they set up an underlayment of some kind between the subfloor and hardwood flooring?

He mentioned, “Oh, we might use an underlayment. We might use one thing like…”, after which he stopped, regarded across the room, noticed my roll of felt paper leaning towards the wall, and pointed to it and mentioned, “…that! We might put that down first.”

So I’ve heard it straight from the native skilled who’s been within the enterprise for many years. I breathed such a sigh of aid simply having that data confirmed by him. It was so value pushing aside beginning on the flooring for 2 days simply to have that data from him and the peace of thoughts it brings understanding that I can transfer ahead with full confidence that I’ll be putting in the flooring precisely like a neighborhood skilled with a long time of expertise on this space would have performed it.

And now with that confidence and that peace of thoughts, I can get busy on the flooring. I’d nonetheless love for another person to do the sanding for me, but when I can’t discover anybody, I’m nice with doing it myself. I dread it, and it’s considered one of my least favourite issues to do, however no less than I’ve expertise. 😀 It received’t be my first time, and it most likely received’t be my final, both.

 

 

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